The Business Leadership Podcast

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edwin_frondozo: Welcome to Business Leadership Podcast, Patrick.

Track 1: Hey, hey, hey, hey. Thank you for having me. I appreciate being here, Mr. Edwin.

edwin_frondozo: Yeah. Mr. um, those who are listening, in just a quick, brief history, Pat, I've known almost 20 years. Um, started, started off in IBM sales and we just, we were sitting together beside each other, cubicles. And our, our, our, we've been reconnected through the universe, power of God as he's.

different amazing things in his life. So I'm reached out, Pat reached out to me and we was like, Yo, let's have a, let's have a conversation. But before I keep going, cuz I could talk about my boy Pat all day. But Pat, why don't you introduce yourself to the listeners today. Tell us why don't you just share who you are and what you like doing when not leading emerging

Track 1: Thank you. Thank you, [00:01:00] Edwin. And yeah, the reminiscing. I love that trip down memory lane. You know, Edwin is a, is a good friend and we got reacquainted and like you said, you know, nothing happens accidentally. You know, we picked up the tools we're supposed to pick up and we reunited when we're supposed to reunite, you know?

And the funny thing is, we're also doing podcasts and you know, worship. Connecting people. So again, like I said, no accident, but, um, you know a little bit about me and what I like to do. Yeah. You know, I thought of this question, but I don't know if I had the, the right plan for it. But, you know, for me, um, a lot of what I do is aligning business leaders through the.

You know, spirituality, raising consciousness, finding alignment, uh, finding energy, you know, creating an internal structure that resonates outwards, you know, just kind of bringing everyone together. You know, oftentimes leaders, they have the top down approach in a company. There's a mission statement, there's things that they want to do, and they wanna make sure that the team executes that, you know, from bottom up and the top down.

And for me, it's really aligning. The energetics [00:02:00] aligning with the desires, um, looking past the mechanics and tools. We always have this skill set and the mechanics and with tools and we want that to equal the results. But you know, I firmly believe, and what I've seen is that. When you help people align, align on an energetic level, when you help them find their are true desires and passions, it's easier for them to bring the mission statement forward because now they're internally aligned so the company as a whole becomes aligned.

Right? So that has been my mission, working with mindset, working with internal guidance, you know, and bringing that forward. And there's a lot of modalities that I use, human design being one of them. When I'm not doing that ,

edwin_frondozo: I'm not

Track 1: when I'm not doing that, I love to just have fun. I love to, I'm really like, um, self.

Growth is, is a big part of my downtime. You know, so there's a lot of reading, um, a lot of, a lot of meditation time that I do. Um, I'm really kind of tapping into myself. I'm at that [00:03:00] phase of my journey, so it's like, Doing things that raise my vibration, you know, spending time with, with family, you know, I just got recently engaged.

Uh, my partner has two kids, so learning to incorporate the family aspect into my life has been new and has been fun and there's growth in that and it's like unfamiliarity with that. So, you know, it's a new terrain. So it's all fun, but it's all growth. But it's also. You know, I just also feel this responsibility to share my growth with the kids cuz they're so young.

They're at that impressionable stage in my life, in their lives. So I also feel like, wow, this is an opportunity to do that with them. They're not my children, but at the end of the day, I feel like we're all connected. So they're all, we're all God's children, right? Everyone's gonna have a different view on this.

So that's a lot of what I do and I try to, I try to exercise, um, and I injured myself with time. Edwin didn't talk about how old we are, so I'm glad. But with time I realized that the running and all the exercise that I used [00:04:00] to do, the, the body's like, it's time to slow down. My friend

on a nice place to sit

and read

edwin_frondozo: Yeah, no, a hundred percent. No. Pat, it's, it's amazing. Thank you for sharing it. And I mean, you hit a number of things and we're definitely going to. Dig into some of them, but just to the point of the beautiful journey you're on with your partner and being a parent. Yes, they're not your kids, but you are a parent.

You are a role model, and you've been given this opportunity to experience. It's a two. Parenting in my eyes is a two-way street. Not only the children learning from us, but but man, I'd. A lot looking at the eyes, looking through the eyes of the, looking through the world through the eyes of my daughter.

um, it's, it's such a gift actually. maybe, maybe, like you said, it's just, it's just the point of where we are in our lives

we could appreciate this. Cuz maybe 10 years ago, maybe 20 years ago, you and I may have [00:05:00] approached this situation way

Right.

Um

Track 1: Definitely Yeah And I agree with that Like I love that you said it's it they teach you constantly I love how you said like learning through the eyes of your daughter Like sometimes you know just finding harmony in my life Like when you know they walk through the door they're like Oh my gosh and and I'm in work mode and sometimes I wanna stay in this mode But then I also feel It's a sign to just shift It's a time it's time to pivot you know And it's just like respect their energy that's coming in and work with that instead of being fixated on what you're doing So it always challenges me to kind of pull away and just align with what's the energy of the room Right So it's a beautiful experience It definitely is know what I

edwin_frondozo: It's beautiful.

Track 1: I we we have two cats Like I feel like the cats can do that to you too Like they can get you to Just pull out a whatever you're fixated on and shift your attention

edwin_frondozo: Yeah, And that, that, that's awesome. And, [00:06:00] and it's funny you bring that my daughter is like bugging us to get a pet right a dog. And I, I am. And just, just for those who are listening, I am a dog lover. I love dogs. Um, maybe selfishly, I don't want to get a dog yet. Um, because I am that person that loves dogs so much.

Um, you're not, you know, I had five growing up, so it's, uh, not. Consistently, but at one point we had four at the house. So I, I like so, but I live in a building Pat, and I know, you know, but I mean, all the dogs know me here, so they all come and it's get that. And, and my, and my parents have one, and my sister has one.

So we are the designated dog sitter, which, know, it's favorite uncle again. I, yeah, I get to enjoy dog for a week or two then rid of it. So I'm still like, I'm still trying to push that with my daughter and stuff. holding you back wanted. Uh, what's holding me back is I think there's an opportunity to give, give the family with a pet, and also provide [00:07:00] to my daughter, Jade. I just, and I don't know if there's a right or wrong time, and I'm

Track 1: I d

edwin_frondozo: like over-engineer this, but I, you know, I, I feel like she has to be around seven or eight just so she really understands some of the

Track 1: I dunno

edwin_frondozo: I wanna make my daughter as happy as I I can. Right. And of course I wanna see her.

If I gave her a dog her eyes will lie. Dog breathing, I'm gonna feel amazing. I did it selfishly so I could feel but two months later I'm doing all the work.

Track 1: You're walking the dog You're cleaning up after the dog Yeah Every morning

edwin_frondozo: It's a puppy. It's a puppy is you know, and, and our life. Yeah. Our lifestyle is a family still not ready, um, for the dog. I'm not, not to say that we can't adapt, I'm a hundred percent confident that us as a family could adapt to do that. But I think there's also some, um, For something like this, a pet, I think you could strategically plan when to bring it in versus [00:08:00] like marriage or a child.

And you know, some situations that may come up, but I, I feel like for a pet you could be a little more and not, overthink it, but maybe I'm outthinking. Anyways, let's, let's get off me, Pat, I don't wanna be you, you're on my podcast by way. No, I'm just kidding. , No, not blank. Um, no. One thing that you brought up and you mentioned is you, When you're in flow or when you're working and the children come home, you know, you get this opportunity, um, to take a break or it's assigned to stop.

You know, you and I, we worked on the sales floor of a call center of an international company where people just work hard and being in a sales organization, you're not as good as your last deal. know, there's daily grind. You know, I'd love to get your. Point of view from your experie experience now in the journey that you're doing and you're sharing is why it's actually important to unlearn that hustle culture and like decon, decondition ourselves out of this.

Track 1: Yes Um no that's a great question and it [00:09:00] it comes up a lot I feel like I that discussion quite a bit because I work a lot with energy and alignment and creating the wish fulfilled and You know the hustle culture like you know if we take it back and we look at this hustle culture and there's subcultures of it but as a whole I feel like everyone's subscribed to But if you try to really define it it's like putting Putting work before like your hobbies your personal interests maybe your health your sleep but like it work is at the forefront And when I see this you know I feel like there's a disconnect there but I also understand where it's coming from because there's this belief that the more we work the harder we work The more success it's going to yield right So if I continue to work and I sacrifice the other things I will yield more success And we also to some extent we're in a we're in a culture that kind of glorifies it right Like we see power through uh promotion You know we give power to those who are ranked higher in the organizational [00:10:00] chart We give power to those who make more money So to me this is an artificial power but there's also

this

I think it's a false sense of security there So people are doing things because they feel like yes I will have more power I will accomplish more and I will be more successful Um but really there's a lot of disconnect that's happening and I think I feel like it's driven from a lot of fear and false sense of security And you know what and I'll tell you a little bit how how we pivot from it But you know it's sad to see when you create a culture where people feel like I don't wanna take time because if I'm taking time off I'm gonna be lazy Or if I'm taking time off I'm not a team player Because the culture is one in which people are answering emails on the weekend and people are working 12 hour days and people have vacation time but at the end of the year they haven't taken any of the vacation time you know Or they take vacation but they're working on vacation and it's you know

edwin_frondozo: and it's

Track 1: It's just when the cul when when you're in that culture everyone sees things [00:11:00] through that lens so no one sees it as wrong You're just you're adjusting to your ecosystem But when you take a step back you can see how unhealthy that could be Right Trying to be a part of that that culture And I strongly believe you know if you change the way you look at the world the world will start to change If you look at and you start to understand that it I sorry If you look at the world you start to understand that you know if I align with what's internally right for me I can still yield the results that you want Like there there are so many different ways that we can get the results that we want And subscribing to a hustle and grind culture can be one But I ultimately believe that that is not the only way Edwin So it's like finding out what internally is important for you like aligned Internally with your energy first and foremost right Where am I being guided and pulled towards Because when I find when I'm in this place of hustling grind and I'm yielding results I could still feel emptiness I could still feel this void I could still feel [00:12:00] this gap And for me it's like I want to go inside first instead of attaching myself to the material things and allowing that to drive Being hustle and grind mode I wanna be like what's right for Edwin What's internally in alignment for Patrick Where am I being pulled to You know where is my soul guiding me Where is my energy pulling me towards Align with those feelings instinctually and then lead from that place because when you lead from that place Whether those things in the outside world are there or not you'll still be in a flow stay like that is what's gonna allow you to stay in flow When we feel like things are missing then we're doing all these things to fill the the gap But when you're aligned internally you're just constantly being pulled in the right direction And what you'll notice is all the things that you want to manifest all the things that you want to The people places and circumstances will come into your life

to create

those things and yield those things right So for me again it's about finding true authentic power is aligning [00:13:00] within and that's removing that veil of conditioning that says we need to go out and hustle and grind and push

edwin_frondozo: Yeah. And, and one, one thing that was coming to mind Pat as you were talking then, and thanks, thanks for sharing. When the, when you're coming from this external drive or because the culture is the norm to work. Would you think that, Oh, before I ask the question, because I would argue that you me and people who've done the deep work, we probably work just as much as these people, but I, I think the mindset and the alignment, when you're working, uh, and being reactive.

It's also, you're coming from a scarcity mindset where it's like, I don't have enough time. I gotta do this. I'm not gonna go on vacation because when I come back, my inbox is gonna be crazy. Um, versus yourself and myself included, and I'm sure a lot of people we work [00:14:00] with, it's yeah, we work those times, but we're actually, we love it and we're o and we're okay.

Staying away from it. Going away from it because we deserve it.

Track 1: Yes

Yes

edwin_frondozo: and, and, and, and there's never gonna run out of time. Right. And we're, we're in, we're in, we are in success already because we are doing our work. So is that something that, that, that you come up with a lot in terms of like that scarcity mindset?

Track 1: Yeah I mean I think uh what you said hit the nail perfectly Like you said we take the time for self Because we deserve it And to me that's also like it's it's shifting like this deservingness energies like this regal energy Like yes Like I've I I I deserve it and I'll I'm gonna be okay And that and and I I also deserve the time for self For meditation for time off for vacation because I'm also showing myself how much I also love myself right I love myself to give myself [00:15:00] space for rest I love myself enough to know that rest allows me to rejuvenate and when I rejuvenate I'm at my best right I love myself enough to putting time for family and those things and it's That is the hard part because again you have to really see Time for self to nurture self allows you to grow and be the person you wanna be But again like you said sometimes when we come from these environments we're conditioned to believe that less time for self and more time for a job and that's that's the direction you need to go So that's a big piece when you boils down to it I feel like at foundation it's about a lot of it is about self-love too Like do you love to honor that rest time

edwin_frondozo: Yeah. And, and this is, this is, this is a great, uh, I guess segue in terms of a lot of the work that you do with one of the, you know, with human design. I'd love it if you could share, I guess, for those who are listening and never heard of human designs. First off, Pat, if you could tell us what human design is, and maybe if you could, [00:16:00] to what we're talking about of, you know, shifting from this hustle.

Maybe the blocks that you may have to get you away from, you know, mindset of scarcity abundance and, and how, how the human design, um, will really allow us to feel that and be

Track 1: Absolutely Yeah I mean human design Thank you Edwin Human Design is a synthesis of Modern and ancient sciences Right And it's not a belief system it's it's a tool that will help people fall into alignment And this is what I always tell people and at a high level it's a combination You're looking at you know the Chinese I ch the Kabbalah astrology quantum mechanics and With human design it allows you to get a better understanding of your energy You know the understanding is that we all have an aura We all have energy You know anyone who understands like the laws of attraction like everything has energy a vibration to So when we come into this world we have an energy It's [00:17:00] almost like your blueprint so to speak and your energy because it carries frequency really determines how you can navigate this world In a way that has ease and flow You know your energy has characteristics to it We have this aura which expands maybe six feet in every direction and it's unique to each person and it carries certain characteristics So the idea with human design is once you understand your energy you'll know what's right for you You'll know the energy you carry versus the energy of someone else You understand when you're in an environment and that energy is pulling you into maybe a place where you're being conditioned so you can really My energy versus someone else Is this right for me or is this not right for me And that's really where the basis of human design starts identifying your energy and knowing what's right for you When you understand your energy you can understand okay Conditioning has me doing the following things and

although it feels

because it feels out of [00:18:00] alignment with my energy I'm not gonna move in that direction That's the really big thing with human design understanding your energy discerning yours from others and then really removing that veil of conditioning like I was mentioning earlier so that you're doing things that are in alignment There's this you know there's this belief right now And because of social media and because of competition like we're constantly doing things that other people are doing Maybe

we're

we're imitating other people or we're in a competitive ecosystem that we're kind of copying other people and we see you know my neighbor has success doing the following things so perhaps I should do the same You know social media I see people doing this and it's using results so perhaps I should do the same The dominant culture says working hard is gonna ch yield the results that you want so perhaps I should do the same So we're it's like people are not aware of who they At their core

edwin_frondozo: Mm-hmm.

Track 1: taken on energy and they're taking on all these programming So they're we're trying to figure out who [00:19:00] we are by imitating other people right So we really need to start When you understand your human design you begin break down these constructs and you get back to who you are And then when you understand truly who you are energetically how you're supposed to navigate that's how we move with more ease and flow Cuz I realize okay what's working for Edwin doesn't necessarily have to work for me because our

edwin_frondozo: Mm-hmm.

Track 1: And right So then you start really tapping into who you are You start paying attention to your intuitive gifts and then that's how we start to really create from a space of authenticity

edwin_frondozo: Mm-hmm. . Yeah, I mean, it's so interesting and we talk about energy and, and I wanna just talk into the terms of, you know, for those business leaders who might be sitting there and listening, like, Okay, I, I, I kind of get what Pat is saying about energy. Kind of sounds a little woo to but it could , it could be just as simpler pat of you're sitting in your cubicle.[00:20:00]

you're doing the work and you're doing well, but it just doesn't feel right. I don't feel like I belong. I don't like there must be something more my life than what I'm doing today. It could be that as easy of identifying or being aware that something is not right, Like that could be the start.

Right? Yes maybe where your conversations happen,

Track 1: Yeah It could be as simple as you Yeah I mean great Absolutely Edwin It could be as simple as you taking inventory and like what is distracting me throughout the day It could be as simple as saying I have the things that I thought would make me happy but why am I not happy I I've I've done the things that are on the list that were supposed

to

guarantee success and happiness and fulfillment but why am I still trying to fill some type of void Why am [00:21:00] I uncomfortable being alone by myself You know why and for some instances you know can be fixation on things It can be substance use for some people Oftentimes you see in high power environments there's oftentimes like a lot of drinking that can happen It's just kind of paying attention to what else is happening right What else is happening Do I feel like there's something missing that I feeling my free time with a lot of like substance use and things of that nature Am I fixating all my work Because work is allowing me an escape Right But then you'll notice that like you said there is something energetically that's not in alignment

edwin_frondozo: Yeah. And, and, and, and it happens everywhere, right? And it's like, it could just, it could be numbing too, right, Pat, It could be something that is in your subconscious, maybe it's showing up in your life of eating

Track 1: mm-hmm

edwin_frondozo: Or like you said, drinking and partying and escaping the reality. Like there something [00:22:00] there.

And maybe that's a little extreme, but I know some people who are, you know, listening here. You know, our business leaders, entrepreneurs, creators who uh, have done actually some work already

Track 1: Yes

edwin_frondozo: who've done some of the personal development. They've done some of these professional development programs, but yet they're still searching.

Right. So what would you say to those who are listening in terms of like, You know. Okay. Pat, Pat has something here with human design. What would it look like, uh, when he talks about diving inwards? What talks about these energies? Like ju Just a little, and I know this could probably be like a three hour call, but I just, I just wanna give an example of how would it work?

Um, um, I, I wish I actually did my, my, um, my, body

Track 1: Oh do you have

edwin_frondozo: yeah, my, I did my body graph. I'll look it up like you said, but, but ultimately it, it's. No, I was just like, for those who are listening, like what what would it look like in terms of like, I've done the work, [00:23:00] but I'm still, there's something missing.

Right. And, and how would human design really approve or improve, you know, the path or change the path of the business leaders today?

Track 1: Yes And this is for the business leader that so yeah whether they've maybe done the work or they've just kind of been introduced to the work or they're novice and they have no idea um what it know the first thing that human design is gonna help you do in just kind of raising your consciousness and awareness is gonna help you do is really give back To the body right Like just getting back into the energy of things And for some people I know it could sound woo woo Um and for some people who are kind of on the path they they they start to understand cuz they've done some of the work but it's li aligning with the body And I wanna like really use simple layman's terms right But just you know if your day If the success of your day is defined by how much work you did and then you go at the end of the day and you look at it like Okay I had a good day because I did all the work I was supposed to do Maybe in

some [00:24:00] instances

that could be okay but what we're missing is how we truly feel energetically right So intuitively it's like how do I feel today be With or without the work If I remove the work out of it how do you feel Because I feel like that's where that the intention should be there and then that's how we'll

know we're in

alignment right My my day how I feel shouldn't always be dependent on the work I do on the outside because then I receive validation from all my work There should also be an opportunity for me to say Where is my energy level How do I feel And allow that to lead That should be the primary and allow the work to accompany that feeling And that's really kind of what I'm getting to We're trying to get business leaders executives teams and environments to almost shift the culture in a sense that it allows for that intuitive piece to be part of the culture It allows for you know alignment to be a part of the culture in a sense that we want every individual to feel that they're doing the [00:25:00] work Is right for them in a way that's right for them Right That's the biggest piece Just in a way that's right for them So it's creating that structure that every individual feels like Yes my overall goal is X but my team allows me to To do the work in a way that's right for me Right And it's a bit of a shift from the way we've always done things but you know sometimes it requires a shift so that we can get to these goals Right So that's the biggest piece is really starting there at a place you allow space for everyone to understand kind of energetically where they are Um for someone who's really trying to take their growth to the next level Because I feel like Edwin there are phases to the journey you know so where new I think it starts at that level where they can just really understand identifying their energy knowing what's comfortable knowing what's right for them and then really understanding am I doing Because I truly subscribe to them because I feel like this [00:26:00] is what's best for my growth or my

doing things

that it's from a base of scarcity and fear but I just can't I can't feel it energetically I'm struggling with identifying it So sometimes I do things outta scarcity and fear and sometimes I do things that I'm in alignment but I need to help just identifying what's truly right for me And that's a great starting place because then that person can I know I'm making this decision out of fear but I also know it's not an alignment I'm just struggling with this shift Right It's it's a new place new terrain for me So that's really like the starting place for the person who's just starting and for a lot of people that I've worked with who have been doing it for a while It's about getting them to a place where they're truly aligned internally where they can really connect with their instinct more You know

they're driven

from an internal place exte instead of an external place Because I'll tell you I'll tell you this and I'm speaking a lot about this cuz I'm passionate about this is once you're aligned internally like really things [00:27:00] Start to have a lot of flow to it They have this grace to it You have so much harmony to your world You see every opportunity as a and a learning opportunity a growth opportunity And when you see things from that lens every day is exciting Like you have gratitude for every day and you're excited to see what direction you know your work is gonna go in So really that's the ultimate place to get someone out where they see every day as a learning opportunity that's bringing them closer to their desire

edwin_frondozo: Yeah. And, and, and just, just to end on that point and on, on a, on a thought on that, pat, for those who. Further along on their journey, there's an understanding that what you know today change because because you're receiving and you're constant. You have a system, you have a routine in place that allows you to identify, you know what this.

Is what things and how I feel, but oh, this doesn't feel right. Like [00:28:00] you're, you're, you're analyzing things. And maybe, which may get the crazy part is, and you could ask my wife about this, I'm always like, Oh, you know that, that's interesting. Why, why, why did I react like that? You know, like even, even with my daughter this morning, we had a situation and it's just like, Oh, that actually hurt me.

Like should I be acting like that? That's, uh, but it's. Uh, and, and I'm sure, I'm sure you, you talk about this and I know you share a lot on your Instagram. We'll put your, we'll put your link in the, the show notes below. But, um, but it's this, this, this, you know, no two humans are alike. So whatever works for Pat, and I know he said it not gonna, may not work for me.

But what does work for all of us is ensuring we're in tune to internally understand. These triggers something made me feel like I love my daughter. Why did it make me feel upset? Right? Like, it's [00:29:00] so weird, but I'm at, like, Pat, I'm at that point in my life. It's like wife is like, Ah, yeah, you're just too sensitive.

I'm like, Nah, I don't know. Maybe, maybe my sensitivity is higher because I, uh, you know, I turn that knob up on the, on the, you know, on the turn. Not the turntable, but on the Right uh, man, it's a, it's, it's a spy sense, I , we'll talk about this forever, but I , but I wanted to ask it by you and I Yes to you of course who is also in about getting people to this state, to leveling up in their life.

curious, like what are currently working on? What are you stacking on in your Thank you found that your. Oh Oh, you know what? This is, this is fairly new and, and, uh, and, and it's making you become effective. Community cater leader or whatnot.

Track 1: Yeah Um for me the it's the constant growth [00:30:00] Um you know and this is gonna be different for everyone There's just things that I love to just kind of dive into I'm a constantly on that journey but I would say this um the growth for me is is two things Uh trying to find Flow in things that you may not necessarily like And what I mean by that is when we're doing things that we absolutely love We're doing things that align with our desires It's very easy to find flow It's getting to channeling state and you just get

so you

know your skill matches what you're doing and you're in the zone is what a lot of people it's very easy to create from that space You can lose track of time and you wait and everyone knows that feeling when you're just in it and you What I'm also trying to work on too is finding flow in things that maybe I'm not necessarily in love with Finding flow

edwin_frondozo: Hmm.

Track 1: things that are also difficult for me Finding flow in things [00:31:00] that maybe I have some resistance around Right but also trying to get into a flow state because just because it's not an ideal state you know I you could still try to find flow I There's a book by Victor Frankel I think Man's Search for Meaning you know when they were in the concentration camps and you know

edwin_frondozo: Mm-hmm. . Yeah. Great

Track 1: to find This kind of flowed He mentioned it in a different way but you know what I pulled from that is you know we can choose to polarize in a way that I can move from like something that's not working to something that is working but I don't define my feeling based on the circumstance I can try to say Okay I know this circumstance is not ideally what I want but can I still fly and flow The job opportunity's not The job that I necessarily wanted the position is not where I want or I want more advancement or I want to shift to entrepreneurship and I'm doing this work that feels like you know I'm just moving the needle Can you still find a way to find flow in [00:32:00] so that it makes then now your day's filled with flow so then now your vibrational energy is different Right And I'm creating like you said what I impress on the subconscious is what we experience in our reality So if I can find flow the day woo then like my my day had energy has flow and then the people around me my wife the kids my colleagues can feel my energy even though I'm doing something that Necessarily is not my favorite thing Right But it's now to channel that energy into it because I can still get into this flow state right That that's a place where I'm really trying to get into Just kind of understanding that element and bringing that into a lot of the things right That I do And I know you know if Fran that's listening I understand there are things that we're not going to necessarily And they're not gonna bring us that much joy But sometimes by default we're quick to say Well I don't like it so this is my energy you know

So

deal with it You know like you know I don't like this stuff or This is not my favorite part of the day So we [00:33:00] allow that to dictate our day our energy our mood our vibe But you know laws of polar polarity I can also polarize myself to be like Well I'm still gonna find flow in this somehow I'm gonna see the growth in this And because I see the growth in this now my energy's infectious

edwin_frondozo: What? You know what? I really love you brought that up. So I

here's

the timing with, here's the timing with this And, uh, and yes, a hundred percent those every, every job has tax things to do that is not desirable. So I was on my run, check this. I was trying on my run. I ran down to the lake show yesterday and I was thinking, you know, in, in the world of social media, there's a lot of do what you love.

I actually, I, I actually, I did a video just to keep myself in, in, in this sense, but I said, I think that's wrong.

Track 1: Mm-hmm

edwin_frondozo: I think you, I think you have to love what you

it doesn't matter what you do.

Track 1: Yes

edwin_frondozo: Yes, you could choose different things eventually, but you have to do things wa you [00:34:00] have to wash your dishes.

Maybe not everyone listening. But when you wash the dishes, love those dishes. someone's going to someone's going to eat off that dish eventually. Right? But if you're not, if you're going there, Oh, I just hate Don. I, I hate doing dishes. You're putting energy, if it's a lower state, intentions,

Track 1: Mm-hmm

edwin_frondozo: your, your, your of.

Is going to show.

Track 1: So

edwin_frondozo: I mean, like, this was literally

Track 1: right

edwin_frondozo: Pat, I'm not even making

Track 1: See

edwin_frondozo: how this works this up like I

Track 1: I

edwin_frondozo: Pat. We should be, we, we, we just need a, we just need a weekly Um, .

Track 1: We're all

connected

edwin_frondozo: Yeah

But anyways, that was sort of the reframe. I was like, you know what? Yes. I, cut, like I said, I, I shared this with, with my wife.

He's like, Well, I don't really love what I do, but I said, But you, Always put your best in Same to, you know, the word right it's not Yes like you said, put your best energy into

it

because if the question you. [00:35:00] Yes So to to do a hundred percent on one thing and then you know what, I'm only gonna choose zero.

How confused is your

Track 1: Oh

edwin_frondozo: like you should be showing up 100 every time. Even. Even if it's like having a dog and picking up after the puppy all Oh yeah. You know, of course I don't like picking up

Track 1: Yes

edwin_frondozo: but

Track 1: it's

edwin_frondozo: what I'm

Track 1: you know what's cool about that too Edwin Do like in any you know and you just comply to anywhere you are and whatever you're doing What you said there as well is like it's a reflection of you Like what what's being projected is Saying something about what's internally inside of you So it gives you an opportunity to kind of pivot and and start to work on it If if you see it right like you have to see it If

you claim your

external circumstances then you know you you're not gonna see it But I love what you said because it really allows one the opportunity to start to say Okay my outside world's not congruent with the [00:36:00] how I what I wanna feel So where is where do I start changing

edwin_frondozo: Yeah, we, we could choose, You could love those bubbles when you wash the dishes, right? Like you just choose something

Track 1: You can you can you know even um like little things that I try to do like obviously I have a lot of fun when I'm running and I'm doing a lot of

things but

you know like you said like just Doing little things around the house I just I'm just I see like oh like you said like you're doing this you're washing the dishes because I know someone else is going to eat from it and these are my dishes and this is our house and there's joy in keeping it fresh and nice instead of looking at it like a task like Oh why can't someone else do this I'm so sick and tired

edwin_frondozo: Exactly.

Track 1: No I'll tell you there's the the journey like I wasn't always this way before There

edwin_frondozo: No, no, a hundred percent. I hated

Track 1: Yeah Right But like and and again if we can implement You know as entrepreneurs because entrepreneurs you wear so many [00:37:00] hats So there's gonna be tasks like usually when we're working on the business we love what we do but there's a lot of the backend things which you're not going to love But like you said if you can shift it and just see is the part is part of the whole And the whole is the part of the part So all connected So I'm learning to enjoy this and I can find flow and do it so in the back end task but I really really love when I'm presenting or when I'm you know doing face to face

edwin_frondozo: Yeah. Well you and you and me both. I'm not, I'm not, I'm human. There are still resistance in a lot of the parts of my businesses that are still in my Right. I still haven't. Exited those roles or handed it off. So, but what happens is if I come in, that stuff never gets done because I'm already putting that energy like, ah, I don't wanna do Oh, that's so tough. I'd rather call Pat up and, you know, let's go hang out and, let's chill out for a bit, right? Because of course that's desirable. [00:38:00] That's fun. of course hanging out with. Cool. I'm hanging out with Pat. That's good vibes, right? . But, but listen, Pat, I mean, I'm, I'm having a blast.

me and I could chat again. Maybe we'll talk again as well. But I'd love it if you could share with those who are listening, um, you know, a final thought. Ideally, maybe one thing that they could take away that's an actionable recommendation, uh, to those who are listening today.

Track 1: Yes Um thank you again Edwin for having me on the show This was this was great It's always catch good catching up with you Uh one recommendation you know for the audience cuz we have a lot of business people leaders executives um on the show it's you know really try to get to a place where We align with our energy I believe that we can have what we want in this world and clearly we enjoy to work There's a goal that we all have There's a definite chief aim You know that's why I think we are business leaders executives entrepreneurs So we have this vision of what we want for ourselves [00:39:00] You know always hold that vision in place regardless of what's happening in your external world You know sometimes we can feel depleted Sometimes we feel like things are not happening as quickly As we want Sometimes we have a timeline but the vision is not coming as quickly as that timeline And that one thing that I wanna say is when you notice that a lot of times it's based on limited beliefs doubts fears and decisions hesitations You know do what you can to remove those from that subconscious and just maintain that feeling And as long as you do you'll notice that you'll still remain in flow You know your happiness is not dictated on how quickly it comes Because you believe and you know that it's gonna come

edwin_frondozo: Yeah, that's a great tip. I appreciate it and it's definitely always a reminder for me as well in terms of, you know, just, just taking tabs. But Pat, it's been an pleasure. Please let us know where we could find more information about you, your programs, your work, anything you'd wanna share with

Track 1: [00:40:00] Absolutely Thank you again Edwin So if you are looking to get in touch with me the website is www.patrickdanko.com Um also you can find me on Instagram at underscore raw to real.com and um Apple Spotify Google Podcasts raw to real where we talk a lot Raising your level of consciousness you know creating what you wanna desire sorry creating what you truly desire and bringing that into fruition And then really eliminating the limited beliefs that are holding you back that are not allowing you to be the person you wanna be to live up to your pole full potential So thank you Edwin This was great It's always great to to speak to like-minded people share this and you know share this information It's fantastic Thank

you.

edwin_frondozo: Yeah. Amazing. Thank you for joining us on the Business Leadership Podcast.

Track 1: Thank you sir